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and the fact is that we are investing resources in securing or border that have never been invested in. >> you'll have a border patrol agent every thousand feet on the border 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. >> we need to fix this. and this is our chance to fix it. >> even with the new border surge, some republicans still aren't sold. here's senator ted cruz explaining why he's one of them. >> it starts with legalization and it promises border security sometime in the future, like the famed character wimpy from popeye. i'll gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today. >> and it remains to be seen what the house will do. >> it's border security and confidence that we've got the border secured before we begin to go down this path of addressing both the legal immigration issues and the illegal immigration issues. but regardless of what the
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senate does, the house is going to work its will. >> jose diaz, good to see you. i want to talk about one of the specific items in the new senate proposal, the so-called border surge that calls for doubling the number of border patrol agents to 40,000. here are the numbers. it shows that even though the number of agents has more than doubled in the last ten years, the number ofpprehensions in that time has declined significantly. i want the viewers to take a close look at this graph. ten years ago a southwest border agent on average apprehended about 100 crossers. last year that number about 19. jose, why call for more agents when those on patrol aren't rounding up a fraction of the illegal immigrants that they were just a decade ago? >> that's a great question. we also have to add to that equation more than a million people deported over the past
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four years under the obama administration. so less people being caught on the border, more people that are here illegally being deported. and why are there not -- have we note seen an increase in people being captured across the border? one, less of them are trying to come to the united states since the economic crisis that we have all been living under for years now. and number two, because quite frankly i think people are looking at other ways of getting into the united states. we have to remember that 40% of the people that are living in the united states currently without documents didn't cross the border illegally. they came in legally and they overstayed their visas. so what you have is a really broken system all across the board. and i think that it's going to be very difficult now for those who say that the paramount issue is border security to oppose this current bill after we are
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talking about it. you're talking about it, 40,000 additional agents on the border. 700-mile fence being completed. drones, all kinds of technology being used. $30 billion for the border! i mean, how much more are you going to get? those who oppose this simply wouldn't agree to anything. >> let's say this bill with these border security measures, let's say the bill does pass the senate with 70 votes. that's considered the magic number to get the stamp of bipartisanship. what's your gut tell you about the future of this bill in the house? >> i think it's going to be very difficult road to hoe. i have to tell you something, i don't think the issue of border security is no longer an issue if this $30 billion additional surge is included in the senate bill. because i don't think that the stumbling block in the house has been the border issue. the house version, the one that you talk about is the gang of seven, that you have been talking about, is much tougher
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on the border than the senate bill was until yesterday. so there are other issues that the house is having a problem with. and one is the republicans insist that the 11 million or however many people will fall under the immigration heren documented are not a burden on the the federal, state or local governments. and that includes health care. i think that's going to be the bigger issue in the house. >> jose diaz, always a pleasure. thank you for your time. >> pleasure, my friend. joining me connecticut congresswoman delores, good to see you. you have seen the new details. 20,000 new agents, new fencing, drones, will all of those things be enough to get house republicans behind the bill? >> let's talk about the senate first. i think what the senate has done is to take a very positive step forward. they have come to a conclusion that with the package of border
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security measures that they have put together, which they believe can achieve a result, has put to rest any concerns that some of the republican members of the senate have had. and if the senate, as they say, can pass the bill with 70 votes, it is a very, very positive step in moving forward. the question is whether or not that translates to the house, which is what your question is. and i think as i heard my colleague, mario, say, it is a heavy lift. keep in mind, we want a bill. we want a comprehensive bill to pass because the need is so great. we are waiting for a plan from the gang of seven. we also have the judiciary committee that's working on an effort and focused on enforcement. and yes, there will be pressure if the senate bill passes to come over here. i think it still is difficult.
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keeping in mind that just about a week or two weeks ago in the midst of this trying to bring together a consensus on immigration that in the house we saw one of the members on the republican side bring a bill that would have deported the dreamers. so i think it's a heavier lift here, but i think what the senate has done is a positive step. and i also think they are going to need to calculate the number of people that will support an effort unlike what they did yesterday in the farm bill. >> yeah, let's get to the farm bill right now. that's a nice segway and talk about what happened yesterday. "the new york times" editorial board calls it a, quote, stunning defeat for speaker john boehner. politico says this, quote, someone in house leadership screwed up again, the defeat of the farm bill shows how massively dysfunctional the house and its leadership have become. what does the failure of house leadership to get that farm bill
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passed, what does that tell you about the future of immigration reform and other important legislation as well? i.e. the budget? >> well, let's put -- let's take the issue. the issues are individual issues. and i think we have to -- we have to look at it from that perspective. however, you don't take a bill to the floor unless you have the votes. and i don't care what the piece of legislation is. you need to calculate the number of votes that you have. and if you take a look at yesterday's numbers with regard to the republicans, it's interesting to note that 61 republican members voted for the most draconian cuts to the snap program. the same 61 voted to -- voted against the bill. so in that respect this bill didn't go far enough for them in terms of the cuts they wanted to make. the democrats on the other hand were united in the view that we
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could not sustain a $20 billion in a cut because it would -- the 2 million people would lose their benefits, a million kids and a couple hundred thousand youngsters could not have access to a school lunch program. but the issue is, one needs to calculate. leader pelosi when she was speaker always calculated whether or not we were going to have enough votes. 62 is not three or four. you can go to the floor and say, you know, you're going to try to make up the difference on the floor, but you can't get to 62. and it was a miscalculation and they brought that bill down. >> congresswoman, perhaps some have suggested here that democrats, some democrats promised support and pulled that support in an attempt to embarrass house republicans. any truth to that? >> look, there's no truth to that. it was the overreaching on the republican side in two respects. one respect was the unbelievable
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attack on the food stamp program. in addition to the $20 billion. they -- >> uh-oh. we apparently lost our feed there. that was congressman rosa delauro. we apologize for the technical difficulties there. the big question has to do with immigration. what do you think the failure of the farm bill means for the future of immigration reform? weigh in on that, just go to twitter or facebook. when we come back, overseeing uncle sam. president obama will hold his first ever meeting with the panel that was set up to balance surveillance and civil liberties. what can we expect from that meeting? former nsa intelligence analyst russell tice will join me on the other side of the break. plus this -- what's happening on the floor today was a demonstration of major amateur hour. >> that bill that would have severely cut the food stamp program goes down in a stunning
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a bit of a rebound after the dow opened hire this morning after nosedives on wednesday and thursday. the markets right now up about a little over six. the dow is down for the first time ever. today president obama will meet to talk about the government surveillance boards. this panel oversees balance to fight terrorism with protecting freedoms. president obama previewed his meeting earlier this week saying the board is made up of independent citizens including,
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quote, fierce civil libertarians. >> i'll be meeting with them, and what i want to do is to set up and structure a national conversation, not only ability these two programs, but also about the general problem of these big datas, because this will not be restrictive to government ebtties. >> russell tice from the u.s. air force, russell, from your experience in the circles, what do you expect out of the meeting today? >> well, i think the situation for these meetings has been available since our previous president. and they have been nonexistent to anemic up until this point. so i just can't see how all of a sudden such a board is going to have a say or sway into ultimately violations that are occurring against our constitution. >> so you think that the meeting today is, for the most part, a p.r. move?
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>> pretty much, yes. >> president obama says that there's a lot of misinformation about these surveillance programs out there, so he has asked the director of national intelligence to declassify more information without compromising national security. how far will that go to help squash some of the outrage or confusion that's out there? >> well, i mean, there's a lot of disinformation going on. i've always said that the situation is much worse. at some point i would like to talk about that. everything i've seen is where they fall back to the next line of defense. we've seen previous -- the previous director of nsa and this director, may are basically not telling the truth about what's going on and they look at what's coming at them from mr. snowdan's information and what's happened in the past and fall back to the next line of defense. the situation is much worse than what's going on that we know. >> how much worse? >> well, for instance, nsa today
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is collecting everything, including content, of every digital communication in this country, both computer and phone. and that information is being stored indefinitely. and that's something they are lying about. and that facility out there in utah is online right now. >> and the fact that they have said they do not do that, you're saying that's just a flat out lie. >> that's correct. >> "the guardian," they broke the nsa news and posted two more classified documents. i'm sure you're aware that one allows domestic communications to be kept even if acquired inadvertently. are they also flat out lying about this or is there a nuance to this, perhaps? >> there is a nuance. this is being use as a screen to ultimately use information to throw at somebody with a court of law and a grand jury. they did that when they threw
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the grand jury at me and they did that to jim risen when they put him up against the grand jury when they say we have the digital records that you called this person or this source, but they won't discuss what you said, even though they had word for word everything that you've said. but they won't use that in a court of law and will fall back to the court to say that's how they had justification just to get the met tada a. >> before i let you out of there, i want to tell you about reports of the outside company that conducted the background check on edward snowdan is the subject of the investigation, essentially because of the ineptness, how widespread are the problems with the way that we conduct background checks on folks with high security clearances in this country? >> well, every check i've had has been pretty thorough. so i know they have outsourced a lot of that because here recently after 9/11 they have had the volume of so many people that they are trying to put into
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the system that i'm sure they are being overwhelmed by that number of people. so, i mean, as far as the i.t. world is concerned, you really -- i mean, the education that would be required to be an analyst like myself is fairly extensive as well as your background or your experience in line with the military at first. but mr. snowdan was hard because of his expertise with computers as the i.t. guy. and that -- when you're an i.t. guy, that's the main thing you need to know, how to work those computers. >> russell tice, appreciate your insight. >> thank you. still on deck this hour, the renewed push for gun control. what mayors around the country are planning to do to force the senate's hand. we'll talk about that, plus the republican of illinois resigns after a rant about this former miss america turned congressional candidate. what his remarks mean for the ongoing rift between the gop women and minorities as well. the agenda panel will tackle that and more when we come back. ♪
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mayors from cities across the country are making a new push for stricter gun buys. that will be on the agenda as the u.s. conference of mayors kicks off their summer meeting in las vegas today. this is the first time they are meeting since the senate voted down a bill that would have expanded background checks. stephan stephanie rawlings blake is here. thank you for being here. >> good to be seen. >> vice president joe biden called on congress to act, what do you hope to hear from the vice president today on the issue? >> his continued frustration and his continued push. the obama administration and the
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vice president in particular has been very forceful in his support of stronger gun laws. the fact of the matter is 90% of americans believe that we should make it harder for people with violent backgrounds, people who mean to do us harm to get their hands on guns with expanded background checks. americans want to see congress work. they want to see compromise, they want to see them work towards a safer country. and i think we can get there. >> you mentioned the 90% of folks who have said in poll after poll they would like to see stronger background checks in this country. have those people lobbied hard enough? have they been effective lobbyers? >> i think the problem is when you ask people about gun control and expanded background checks, a lot of people think that the things that we are fighting for are already in law. we have seen the numbers. we have seen the polls. people think the common sense laws that we are fighting for are already in effect. >> you're part of the mayors
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against illegal guns coalition. recently that group funded by and large by new york city mayor michael bloomberg, they have been targeting senators who voted against the gun background checks bill do. you think that's something that could turn the tide? >> well, it certainly worked on the republican side to target those who are waivering from the nra positions. i support mayor bloomberg. he fights hard and smart. and we have to get tough with members of our own party to make sure that we understand as a group, as a party, that we are not going to take the backseat. we are going to be leaders. to make sure we have common sense gun laws in the country. >> major stephanie rawlings blake, thank you for your time. the producer pick was a team decision. grab your gadgets, run your seat backs to the upright position, folks. the faa is expected to relax its rules on electronic devices on airplanes. so, what will you be able to use? and when? read more about that story by heading to myfacebook page,
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epic fail, the house shoots down its own farm bill. what does it say about the house gop? and what could it mean for immigration reform? speaking of the gop, race relations, a republican official in illinois e-mails what's characterized as a racist rant. but does the reaction point to this? those are the topics of today's agenda panel. andy crowley, kelly gulf, and steve bennett are here. he's a blogger for the wildly popular maddow blog. good to see you. thank you for being with us on a friday. >> thanks. >> andy, we'll talk about the farm bill that was voted down 195-234. 62 republicans voting against
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the bill. 24 democrats voting for the bill. it was supposed to be all but certain, house speaker john boehner on tuesday all but guaranteed passage. what happened here, andy? >> we saw another instance of the republican leadership in the house, not having control and not being able to corral the more conservative members of their caucus. house speaker boehner and house speaker cantor were confident this farm bill would pass as they have for other farm bills in the past. the farm bill is usually bipartisan. it is in, you vote on it and it goes, but in this case more conservative members of the caucus just could not live with this bill. they didn't think that the steep food stamp cuts, $20.5 billion cuts, were steep enough. and so they revolted just as they have on issues in the past we have seen under speaker boehner. >> steve, one would think that the votes would have been
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counted before the vote was taken, as is usually the case with bills, especially bills like this. did that not happen here? >> well, yes, i think that's right. the house majority leader eric canton and john boehner fell on their faces on this one. they assumed it was a foregone conclusion this was going to pass, and this was part of a larger pattern. the gop leadership has struggled consistently with their ability to lead and govern. and they are overseeing a house majority caucus that doesn't seem willing to be led. it's not a good combination spelling trouble for the rest of the congress. >> some republicans are saying that democrats initially said they would support the bill then pull that support to embarrass members of the gop. both sides are essentially blaming the other for the failure. let's take a listen. >> what is happening on the floor today was a demonstration of major amateur hour. they didn't get results and they
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put the blame on somebody else. if we ever came to you when we had the majority and said we didn't pass the bill because we didn't get enough republican votes, well, you know, that's really silly. it's sad. it's juvenile. it's unprofessional. it's amateur hour. >> what we saw today was a democratic leadership in the house that was insistent to undo years and years of bipartisan work on an issue like a farm bill and decide to make it a partisan issue. >> kelly, any truth to that at all? >> well, i mean, i get that it is a little silly the one member of congress they were willing to throw under the bus was representative collin peterson, and he's a democrat. and that's the only member of congress the republicans were willing to blame for the defeat of sensibly their bill, right? so it was a little ridiculous. i think what's going on here is an ongoing civil war within the gop where they can't really decide who controls their party.
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are they going to be the grassroots party of conservativism or they let the party lobby for arms like that worried about taxes and not worried about rural america write their policy. >> andy, what might we gleam from what transpired with the farm bill, what might that tell us about the future of immigration reform? about other issues like the budget moving forward? >> well, i think that there are few lessons to take away from this. i do think that it shows speaker boehner, majority leader cantor, the republican leadership, they have an incredibly heavy lift trying to convince their members that the immigration bill in whatever form that's going to be is something they should support, but i would urge a note of caution. the immigration bill is sort of its own creature. i don't think the rules that apply to more traditional legislation like the farm bill, for instance, or like the budget when republicans revoted against
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boehner's plan b, i don't think the immigration bill fits in that same groove. it is -- it stands alone. republicans see this as a strategy issue as well as legislation because if they block immigration, that has electoral consequences. so take caution, but also it is another sign that boehner and cantor really have their work cutout for them. >> let's switch topics and talk about earlier this week. montgomery county party jim allen sends this e-mail to a web news out there. the e-mail is about erika harold. she's a former miss america who is challenging gop congressman rodney harrisson. this was from the e-mail. miss queen is being used like a streetwalker and her pumps are the democrat party and rino republicans. he goes on to say that she'll be
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back, when she loses, she'll be back, quote, working for some law firm that needs to meet their quota for minority hires. again, that's the e-mail that he sent there, kelly. kelly, what does this tell us about the gop's outreach effort? >> well, i think that we know what it tells us about rodney davis, excuse me, about the man who wrote the e-mail, mr. allen, that raises questions on his own i.q. anyone who knows erika, this is a woman who graduated from harvard law school and when she won miss america her long-term member was to become a member of the senate. she would be a great candidate for either party to have. that set aside, there are so many instances of racist comments made about president obama in his first year of office as president by republican elected officials, republican activists that new york magazine compiled a
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slideshow. congressman jeff davis called president obama boy in his first year of office and had to apologize if you all remember. the reason i bring this up is because representative davis announced he's retiring. the point i'm trying to make is that the gop recognizes people like that represent the past. and if they want to have a future, it belongs to people like erika harold, which is why i think it is significant the chairman of the rnc reince priebus asked this guy to resign, which he did yesterday. the gop has to get on board to support minority voters and the rnc is finally taking it seriously. they demanded he resign, he did. they started staffing up and started minority hires and they have chairman priebus appear on the morning show doing a listing tour. i think they are finally starting to get the message and we'll see if it will result in them whipping more support from people of color. >> as is the case when things like this happen and it hits the
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fan, joe allen has since apologized saying in part, quote, my comments are very inappropriate and wrong. and i apologize to ms. harold and her campaign and her supporters. he resigned as you noted. steve, you wrote a piece on this as well, headline, another setback in the gop's outreach efforts. what more does this say about that? >> well, i feel like it's a problem here for republicans in as much as a cumulative effect. if it is just one isolated official in illinois, it would be easy to forget, but i think that there's this pattern that republicans are struggling with. it is not just this one official in illinois. we also heard last week from congressman jeff duncan who made a birther joke on a radio show. i think that has a rayist undertone. and judge edith jones had a problem in terms of suggesting that african-americans and latinos are more committed to
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crime. there was a report authored by a person who said white people have higher i.q.s than minorities. i think all this when put together suggest that is the party has a problem when it comes to minorities in outreach. >> i would agree but the fact they never ask people to resign previously was part of the larger problem. if you don't acknowledge you have a problem then the problem continues. the fact they stepped up immediately and said this guy has to go is significant. let's hope we see more of it. >> and we've got to go as well. good to see you, folks. if you did not get enough from the agenda, find more from the panel on our website, tv.msnbc.com. follow the link to thomas roberts. up next, the all female jury is seated in the trial of george zimmerman. what that could mean for zimmerman's case in florida? also, don't forget, you can share your thoughts on today's big question. what do you think the failure of the farm bill means for the future of immigration reform? >> go to facebook and twit tore weigh in.
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today's session of the george zimmerman trial ended shortly after it began, but the judge was expected to rule on a key piece of evidence. whether state witnesses would be allowed to testify about who they believe was screaming on a 911 tape and it may be released in written form later today. meanwhile, opening statements are set for monday morning. the jury seated yesterday is made up of all women. zimmerman has pled not guilty in the shooting death of 17-year-old trayvon martin and claims he shot martin in self-defense. martin was unarmed. joining me now is former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst kendall coffee. let's start with the jury here, all women of the four alternates, two men. how significant is an all female jury in a trial like this? >> very hard to say, but if we believe the polls that say that women are more likely than men
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to favor gun control, more likely than men to see guns as a source of danger than a source of safety, that could be a slight plus for the prosecution because a lot of this case is not just about putting george zimmerman on trial, but the idea of somebody going around with a gun and using themselves as a private citizen rather than calling the police. that's a big part of this case. and there eticly the women could be more set on those facts. >> one of the things that came out today is the state can say that zimmerman profiled martin but not that he racially profiled the teenager. the prosecutors can also call zimmerman a quote, wannabe cop or vigilante if they choose. how significant will language be in the opening statements? >> cases are decided on facts and witnesses, but it's helpful for the prosecution to sort of be able to capture their concepts in just a couple words.
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and those are critical concepts. profiling, not in the racial sense, but profiling that this was a young teenager who looked like trouble. that's suggesting that zimmerman was going after him. so that's helpful for the prosecution. and the other terms i think are critical, too, because wannabe cop, wannabe cop and vigilante is what their theory is about. nobody is saying george zimmerman woke up that morning and wanted to kill a young man, but they say he basically took the law into his own hands and rejected the advice of the dispatcher because he thought he was a tough guy to use a gun and bring swift justice without going through the proper authorities and without following the law and ultimately committing the crime of murder. >> how do you expect each side to frame their opening statements come monday morning? >> well, big issue will be the one that's decided when the judge tells us if the expert testimony about who's voice on the 911 tape is allowed to come
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in. that's a big deal. if that's allowed, the prosecution will talk about that. that, of course, if you know who's voice was crying for help to tell them who was the real victim here in the minds of the jury, i think that the prosecution has to engage the jury with working on a circumstantial type of case. they don't have the eyewitness to put it together. it's a piece here and there. i think from the defense standpoint we'll see over and over again the photographs of george zimmerman's injuries. real injuries. things that are going to capture the jury's idea and they will emphasize the fact that there is no account that nails this for george zimmerman. they are not going to talk about at all whether george zimmerman will take the stand. that's a giant question here that may not be answered until the end of the trial. >> kendall coffey, thank you. folks, stay with msnbc for continuing coverage of the george zimmerman trial. i'll be live from sanford, florida, starting monday.
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new details are emerging in the homicide investigation involving nfl star aaron hernandez. right now investigators are looking very closely at the relationship between the new england patriots' tight end and 27-year-old oden lloyd whose body was found near hernandez's home. stephanie gosk is in massachusetts for us. what's the latest on the investigation right now? >> reporter: well, important to point out right out of the gate is the fact that the investigation is ongoing and still very fluid. there has been talk of arrest warrants and we should clear that up as well. according to the district county court, there have been no arrest warrants issued in this case. there have been no applications for warrants filed despite some soft the reports out there. having said that, police are looking very closely at that relationship between odon lloyd and aaron hernandez. there are multiple local reports
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that there's actually surveillance video from over the weekend when the two men were seen together. now, on thursday investigators were pouring over the area where the body was found using metal detectors looking for evidence that may have been left behind. there's a little bit of activity behind us right now. it seems an edible arrangement has been delivered to the house. well, i can tell you from what we have seen here in the last 24 hours or so, aaron hernandez's whereabouts are unknown. yesterday he went in his car and was followed by helicopters and local news to gillette stadium. he was there for about an hour. then he was at a gas station. a number of reporters surrounded him trying to get him to comment on this case. he did not. he then went to boston and met with his lawyers. that's the last time we have seen him in public and there was no activity of him arriving back
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sparks flew at the texas state capitol last night when hundreds of women tried testifying against proposed abortion restrictions. according to reports, at least 700 texans were registered to speak on the proposed bill. the overflow crowd, they packed three rooms. republican congressman byron cook told hundreds of women they would not be allowed to testify. >> when they shut us down in
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that hearing, they did what we told them they were doing to us. and that was suppressing us, ignoring us. >> the fact is, there are a lot of people here, and it was taking a long time. >> the hearing was almost 15 hours long. it continued until the early morning hours without a final decision. msnbc's karen finney joins me live in the garage. let's look at the restrictions of house bill 60 in texas. bans abortions after 20 weeks. requires doctors to have admitting privileges at hospitals within 30 miles, requires clinics to meet the same standards as ambulatory clinics. regulates how doctors administer pills. some say red tape, and these are not recommended -- medically recommended requirements, as well. >> well, and -- >> who would this affect most? >> it would affect the patients the most and further inconvenience patients the most.
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there are strict guidelines for these clinics. and we're seeing these kinds of proposals crop up in lots of places around the country and the goal is to try to shut them down. when you're talking about doctors administering -- it means you would have to have a democratic tore there with you when you take the morning after pill is basically what they're talking about. you can't trust a woman to follow a prescription? really? come on. and the fact they tried to shut these women down, these women disrupting and i'm proud of them for that, shows they know they've got a problem on their hands. they know that saying an abortion clinic has to have, you know, the doors wide enough for a gurney. right? come on. that's not an effort to actually try to improve anything. that's an effort to shut them down. >> proponents of the 20-week ban say fetuses can feel pain. this is what texas congressman and former ob-gyn said earlier this week. take a listen. >> you woman a sonogram of a 15-week baby and they have movements that are purposeful, they stroke their face.
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if they're a male baby, they may have their hand between their legs. they feel pleasure. why is it so hard to think they could feel pain? >> what's your response to that? >> you know, he, like a number of men in the caucus, need to go back to seventh grade biology. and we're going to try to help them out with that tomorrow on "disrupt." come on, a fetus masturbating? that's why? again, we know this 20-week ban is aimed at -- they're trying to get a case to the supreme court, because that challenges what is current law. and there are legitimate reasons that there's a very moving piece today in the "new york times" by a woman who had to have an abortion at 23 weeks, and it was a heartwrenching decision. it wasn't something she was wanting to have to do. but it was, you know, what she was having twins. it was a very dramatic story. so time and again, the language we're hearing is so disconnected from the reality of women's lives, and sort of the reality of what can happen. >> earlier this week, the texas senate passed a bill that includes many of the same
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provisions. there was, of course, the bill that passed the u.s. congress, as well. the lower house, at least. what can we make of the timing of all of this? what's behind the timing? or do we know? >> it's a very concerted effort. i serve on the board of pro choice america, and we have been watching these measures for quite some time. the goal at the federal level and state level, again, is to try to a., shut down women's rights. but also a legal agenda to get a case to the supreme court and try to directly challenge roe vs. wade. so we have to fight it both on the state level and federal level. >> "disrupt." every saturday and sunday. what do you have coming up this weekend? >> a lot of good stuff. we're going to teach folks a little bit about how women's bodies really work. all right? >> and you know what, that's a great segue for this. that's going to wrap it up for me. thomas roberts is back. 11:00 eastern. monday morning. and you can catch me tomorrow right before "disrupt," in fact, 2:00 eastern right here on msnbc. now with alex wagner is up next.
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alex, what have you got coming up? >> i am psyched for karen's biology lesson. that's all i'm going to say. psyched, america needs it. thank you, my friend. and hello, craig. happy friday. house republicans defect on the farm bill. frogs leaping out of the wheel barrow by the dozens. we'll discuss whether it will cost john boehner his job. plus, john mccain is begging his party not to obsess over the dang fence. does the house have its own plan to kill the bill? and mayors are planning a strategy to move the ball forward on gun safety at their meeting in las vegas today. we will speak with the president of the u.s. conference of mayors, philadelphia's mayor, michael nutter. all that starts in a mere 180 seconds. chantix... it's a non-nicotine pill. i didn't want nicotine to give up nicotine. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. [ mike ] when i was taking the chantix,
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is "now." the dysfunction of the people's house was on full display yesterday, as the farm bill went down in flames, offering yet another striking example of how republican leadership is unable to count votes. shortly before the vote, agriculture committee chair, frank lucas, pleaded with his colleagues not to abandon ship. >> vote with us. vote with me on final. and if you don't, when you leave here, they'll just say it's a dysfunctional body, a broken institution, full of dysfunctional people. that's not true! >> actually, it is. describing the come immediatecally doomed house vote, politico reported someone in the house leadership screwed up again. the defeat of the farm bill shows once again how massively dysfunctional the house and leadership has become. still, that did not stop the
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very same leadership from taking to the floor of the house to blame democrats for the failure of the bill, even though 62 republicans defected on their own bill. >> what we saw today was a democratic leadership in the house that was insistent to undo years and years of bipartisan work on an issue like a farm bill and decide to make it a partisan issue. it really is a disappointing day, i think that the minority has been a disappointing player today, mr. speaker, on the part of the people. >> house minority whip steny hoyer instead offered the gop a heaping dose of real talk. >> majority leader continues to want to blame the democrats for his inability and the republicans' inability to give a majority vote to their own bill! we will take no blame for the failure of the farm bill. none, zero. as much as you try to say it, you can't get away